Somebody put up their hay too wet. You do that and spontaneous combustion can ruin your day, and your haystack.
The problem is not that there are problems. The problem is expecting otherwise and thinking that having problems is a problem. Theodore Isaac Rubin
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A Wee Bit Wet
Saturday, August 11. 2007
Fire risk still high in East
BillingsGazette.com :: Fire risk still high in East
This story just points out how explosive the situation is here in Eastern Montana. It also points out the importance of the first strike on a fire.
Eastern Montana has been spared a large fire so far this summer due to stepped up first-strike efforts by federal and volunteer fire crews.
If you can jump quick enough and get around a fire, you can shut it down. Sometimes the risks are a little greater but the rewards are worth it.
Yet Again
I'm tired, that's for sure. Last night the weather forecasters said there was going to be a frontal passage that would bring 40 MPH winds and with the hot temperatures and low humidity gave us a red flag warning in the area. Then to top it off they said there was a chance of dry lightning with the frontal passage. Guess what, they were right.
About 8:00 last night I heard some rumbling of thunder and went outside and looked and sure enough off to the north was some lightning. Damn, that worried me. We jumped in the pickup and took off to start driving around to check for fire when the wind hit STRONG. I'll believe it was 40 MPH, it was really blowing. We got a couple of miles away from the p[lace and was cresting a hill when My Darling Wife calls on the radio saying that someone to the north of us said there was a fire between us somewhere. We just crested the hill and I told her that we could see the smoke and there was definitely a fire north of our place and to start calling the fire department and the neighbors because it was putting up a lot of smoke. Maybe I should start calling My Darling Wife, The Dispatcher any more. She seems to be doing that a lot.
The way the wind was blowing I was really worried. The fire was not on my place but the wind was really blowing it that way and it was in some really rough country to get to. The Hired Hand wanted to get in front of the fire and try to put it out so it wouldn't advance towards the place. I told him that he was crazy. I was not getting in front of a fire that was putting up that much smoke, it was really thick by now, with the winds behind it. That was suicide and not what to do in this situation. My goal was to circle around it and start there. I was also gambling that the weather forecasters would be right. They said that after the frontal passage the winds would die down after a couple of hours and the humidity levels would come up which would give us an opportunity to get around the damn thing. With the amount of smoke the fire was putting out it still worried me but that's all I knew to do.
So we circled around to the west of the fire to get to it. It was in the rough, timbered country and we were the first ones there. This wasn't going to be fun. The Dispatcher had people coming our way and there was a guy showing up from the north at the same time so we started on the backside of the fire working one way putting out and the other guy went the other way.
To maker a long story short, about 6 hours later we got around it and the fire and it was not growing anymore. A couple of hours after the frontal passage the winds died down and the humidity levels definitely came up to give us the edge we needed to fight the damn thing. The county was trying to put a line around it with a road grader, awful rough country for that in the dark, and we were getting the edges cooled down. I had kept hearing rumors that someone had spotted a fire on my south end so with this fire under control and enough people around it, we headed out to check this rumor out. It was wrong, I could find nothing else but I was sure glad to have looked around, it made me feel better.
It was a damn long night with little sleep but the fire should be under control if the landowner just watches it. Do you have any concept how hard it is to fight fire in the dark on somebody else's place? I had a vague idea how the country laid but was not intimately familiar with it like I was our country. This made it really tough on all of us but the neighbors and the county were champs and we got it out. I've had enough of this shit. I am not a firefighter and My Darling Wife is not a dispatcher. I just wish it would get wet again and that the fire danger would ease so we wouldn't have to do this. Eventually it will happen but at this point, not soon enough for my taste.
About 8:00 last night I heard some rumbling of thunder and went outside and looked and sure enough off to the north was some lightning. Damn, that worried me. We jumped in the pickup and took off to start driving around to check for fire when the wind hit STRONG. I'll believe it was 40 MPH, it was really blowing. We got a couple of miles away from the p[lace and was cresting a hill when My Darling Wife calls on the radio saying that someone to the north of us said there was a fire between us somewhere. We just crested the hill and I told her that we could see the smoke and there was definitely a fire north of our place and to start calling the fire department and the neighbors because it was putting up a lot of smoke. Maybe I should start calling My Darling Wife, The Dispatcher any more. She seems to be doing that a lot.
The way the wind was blowing I was really worried. The fire was not on my place but the wind was really blowing it that way and it was in some really rough country to get to. The Hired Hand wanted to get in front of the fire and try to put it out so it wouldn't advance towards the place. I told him that he was crazy. I was not getting in front of a fire that was putting up that much smoke, it was really thick by now, with the winds behind it. That was suicide and not what to do in this situation. My goal was to circle around it and start there. I was also gambling that the weather forecasters would be right. They said that after the frontal passage the winds would die down after a couple of hours and the humidity levels would come up which would give us an opportunity to get around the damn thing. With the amount of smoke the fire was putting out it still worried me but that's all I knew to do.
So we circled around to the west of the fire to get to it. It was in the rough, timbered country and we were the first ones there. This wasn't going to be fun. The Dispatcher had people coming our way and there was a guy showing up from the north at the same time so we started on the backside of the fire working one way putting out and the other guy went the other way.
To maker a long story short, about 6 hours later we got around it and the fire and it was not growing anymore. A couple of hours after the frontal passage the winds died down and the humidity levels definitely came up to give us the edge we needed to fight the damn thing. The county was trying to put a line around it with a road grader, awful rough country for that in the dark, and we were getting the edges cooled down. I had kept hearing rumors that someone had spotted a fire on my south end so with this fire under control and enough people around it, we headed out to check this rumor out. It was wrong, I could find nothing else but I was sure glad to have looked around, it made me feel better.
It was a damn long night with little sleep but the fire should be under control if the landowner just watches it. Do you have any concept how hard it is to fight fire in the dark on somebody else's place? I had a vague idea how the country laid but was not intimately familiar with it like I was our country. This made it really tough on all of us but the neighbors and the county were champs and we got it out. I've had enough of this shit. I am not a firefighter and My Darling Wife is not a dispatcher. I just wish it would get wet again and that the fire danger would ease so we wouldn't have to do this. Eventually it will happen but at this point, not soon enough for my taste.
Thursday, August 9. 2007
Burning
Wednesday, August 8. 2007
Where's The Beef?
Fire
Too much excitement around here for me. Monday afternoon the hired hand come running home saying there was a fire. Boy he was excited about it. We went running over to see where it was and what we could do. I told My Darling Wife I didn't want to call it in yet because I wasn't sure where it was. The hired hand wasn't making much sense.
I kept looking over to where he said the fire was and I couldn't see no smoke so I figured it must be pretty small. We finally got to where we could see the smoke and fire and it wasn't to big and I figured we could get a handle on it. I started up the sprayer and had the hired hand drive and we took off to spray down the fire and get it under control. We didn't go very far and all of a sudden the wind came up and off to the races the fire was, running out ahead of us at a fast and furious rate. About this time the hired hand was having all kinds of trouble with the pickup. The clutch wasn't working right. He couldn't get it out of gear, was having a hard time getting it into gear and one time when it dies, it barely wanted to start.
With pickup trouble and the fire running with the wind I decided to radio home and have My Darling Wife call for help. She called the different fire agencies in the area and the neighbors to come give us a hand. I then tried to figure out what was wrong with the pickup. It was real easy to figure out, the hired hand had overheated the engine. We were idling along spraying out fire and he had the air conditioner on which causes my pickup to overheat. I popped the radiator cap and watched the steam plume all over and filled it with water from the sprayer and we were off again with stern warnings about the a/c and radio staying off.
At this point I backed off and regrouped. The fire was really going so I had to come up with a plan. I started by trying to get the west side of the fire out up to the alfalfa fields. There was a couple miles on the east side before the fire found any timber but we were all ready only about 100 yards away from timber on the west side so I wanted to keep it out of the timbered hills. That's really hard to fight once its in the timber.
I just was getting that done when the helicopter arrived to start helping. Boy was I glad to see it. That meant more help was coming. The wind had died down by now so it wasn't to bad fighting the fire and we kept working around it as more and more people showed up and we all got it shutdown. What a relief. Was I ever exhausted by this point. It's amazing how hard a person can work when doing something like this and not even relize it. My throat still hurts from the smoke I inhaled. At times it was so thick that I couldn't see or breathe very well and it really got to my lungs. That's what happens though.
It burned around 50-75 acres of grass. The hired hand and I have been taking turns sitting on it making sure it is staying out. Put out any smokes we see and monitor the situation. I am feeling pretty comfortable that it is out now and we can relax a little. Now if I just don't get any more thunderstorms around here. That's how we figured this one started, we heard some thunder of rumbles on Sunday night so there must have been a strike that we were not aware of. Hoping for no more.
I would like to thank everyone that responded. Neighbors, county, BIA, all the help was appreciated to stop this.
We consider the beauty of nature and art with pleasure and satisfaction, without the slightest movement of desire. Moses Mendelssohn
I kept looking over to where he said the fire was and I couldn't see no smoke so I figured it must be pretty small. We finally got to where we could see the smoke and fire and it wasn't to big and I figured we could get a handle on it. I started up the sprayer and had the hired hand drive and we took off to spray down the fire and get it under control. We didn't go very far and all of a sudden the wind came up and off to the races the fire was, running out ahead of us at a fast and furious rate. About this time the hired hand was having all kinds of trouble with the pickup. The clutch wasn't working right. He couldn't get it out of gear, was having a hard time getting it into gear and one time when it dies, it barely wanted to start.
With pickup trouble and the fire running with the wind I decided to radio home and have My Darling Wife call for help. She called the different fire agencies in the area and the neighbors to come give us a hand. I then tried to figure out what was wrong with the pickup. It was real easy to figure out, the hired hand had overheated the engine. We were idling along spraying out fire and he had the air conditioner on which causes my pickup to overheat. I popped the radiator cap and watched the steam plume all over and filled it with water from the sprayer and we were off again with stern warnings about the a/c and radio staying off.
At this point I backed off and regrouped. The fire was really going so I had to come up with a plan. I started by trying to get the west side of the fire out up to the alfalfa fields. There was a couple miles on the east side before the fire found any timber but we were all ready only about 100 yards away from timber on the west side so I wanted to keep it out of the timbered hills. That's really hard to fight once its in the timber.
I just was getting that done when the helicopter arrived to start helping. Boy was I glad to see it. That meant more help was coming. The wind had died down by now so it wasn't to bad fighting the fire and we kept working around it as more and more people showed up and we all got it shutdown. What a relief. Was I ever exhausted by this point. It's amazing how hard a person can work when doing something like this and not even relize it. My throat still hurts from the smoke I inhaled. At times it was so thick that I couldn't see or breathe very well and it really got to my lungs. That's what happens though.
It burned around 50-75 acres of grass. The hired hand and I have been taking turns sitting on it making sure it is staying out. Put out any smokes we see and monitor the situation. I am feeling pretty comfortable that it is out now and we can relax a little. Now if I just don't get any more thunderstorms around here. That's how we figured this one started, we heard some thunder of rumbles on Sunday night so there must have been a strike that we were not aware of. Hoping for no more.
I would like to thank everyone that responded. Neighbors, county, BIA, all the help was appreciated to stop this.
We consider the beauty of nature and art with pleasure and satisfaction, without the slightest movement of desire. Moses Mendelssohn
Tuesday, August 7. 2007
Water Drop
Monday, September 4. 2006
Not Over Yet
With the cooler weather so far over the weekend they made some progress on the Derby Fire but it looks like that is in Jeporady now.
Fire officials order more evacuations
The story talks about how temperatures are expected to climb for the next few days and the humidity is going to drop so expect problems. These fires really get going in those conditions. Factor in some wind, which this area is famous for, and it could get explosive.
There are a lot of people and animals in the area that I am thinking about. Factor in the Firefighters working hard to control this and there is a lot of things to pray for. Let's hope they make some progress and it doesn't make any more huge runs like last week.
To find out a little more information about this fire you can go here:
Derby Mountain Wildland Fire
There is an RSS feed available on the page to keep up on the announcements and news. I note the maps available are a few days old and I don't know when new ones will be available but I assume there will be some updated ones eventually. They are working at putting out the fire and sometimes the information doesn't get distributed to the public as fast as we would like to see it. Let's not criticize them for not being fully up to date and try to understand the stress they are under fighting this.
Compassion brings us to a stop, and for a moment we rise above ourselves. Mason Cooley
Fire officials order more evacuations
More than 200 homes were being evacuated Sunday night on the western flank of the fast-growing Derby Mountain fire.
Fire officials feared that winds and warmer temperatures in the coming days will create "extreme" fire conditions on the Derby fire, which had grown to 180,000 acres by Sunday night and was considered 20 percent contained.
The fire is burning fiercely, and sometimes erratically, including a burst of about 3 miles in an hour Sunday afternoon.
The story talks about how temperatures are expected to climb for the next few days and the humidity is going to drop so expect problems. These fires really get going in those conditions. Factor in some wind, which this area is famous for, and it could get explosive.
There are a lot of people and animals in the area that I am thinking about. Factor in the Firefighters working hard to control this and there is a lot of things to pray for. Let's hope they make some progress and it doesn't make any more huge runs like last week.
To find out a little more information about this fire you can go here:
Derby Mountain Wildland Fire
There is an RSS feed available on the page to keep up on the announcements and news. I note the maps available are a few days old and I don't know when new ones will be available but I assume there will be some updated ones eventually. They are working at putting out the fire and sometimes the information doesn't get distributed to the public as fast as we would like to see it. Let's not criticize them for not being fully up to date and try to understand the stress they are under fighting this.
Compassion brings us to a stop, and for a moment we rise above ourselves. Mason Cooley
Thursday, August 31. 2006
Derby Fire
A really bad fire near Big Timber/Columbus.
Residents scramble to get out of Derby fire path
Towns of Fishtail, Nye under evacuation order
I note the map in the paper appears to be a little out of date. The reading I have been doing is that there is a pre-evacuation order out for Reedpoint and another one for the areas all the way up to Columbus.
It just shows how dry it is out there. I can't help but thinking if the fire was running with winds of 50 MPH, how many cattle and other critters were lost? How many ranchers are getting burned out? Everybody always talks about all the homes in danger. I see the ranchers getting hurt. Is that wrong of me?
The weather forecast doesn't look real promising for getting this under control. Cool today but then slowly warming up and no real chance of moisture. Bad situation.
A tragic situation exists precisely when virtue does not triumph but when it is still felt that man is nobler than the forces which destroy him. George Orwell
Residents scramble to get out of Derby fire path
Towns of Fishtail, Nye under evacuation order
I note the map in the paper appears to be a little out of date. The reading I have been doing is that there is a pre-evacuation order out for Reedpoint and another one for the areas all the way up to Columbus.
It just shows how dry it is out there. I can't help but thinking if the fire was running with winds of 50 MPH, how many cattle and other critters were lost? How many ranchers are getting burned out? Everybody always talks about all the homes in danger. I see the ranchers getting hurt. Is that wrong of me?
The weather forecast doesn't look real promising for getting this under control. Cool today but then slowly warming up and no real chance of moisture. Bad situation.
A tragic situation exists precisely when virtue does not triumph but when it is still felt that man is nobler than the forces which destroy him. George Orwell
Tuesday, August 15. 2006
Fire Patrol
Storm ignites fires around city
The storm cell didn't get here until 10:00 pm but there was still a lot of lightning with it. I sent a good portion of the night on fire patrol seeing if it started anything. There was a little moisture with it and I never did find any fire. I am worried about today though. When it warms up something could come to life. Damn lightning. Short couple hours of sleep. Hope nothing happens today.
We say, Oh, we're tired, can we do this anymore? We can't do this one more day. And then something happens and we laugh. And you can't get rid of us. Diane Sawyer
A thunderstorm that blew through Billings on Monday night toppled trees and power lines and sparked a series of lightning-caused wildfires.
One fire, near Sacrifice Cliff, blackened 40 acres where a cluster of transmitter towers sits at a site off Coburn Road, said Mark Heppler of Billings Interagency Dispatch.
The blaze, called the Four Dances fire, did not appear to damage any of the dozen towers or the structures that accompany them, Heppler said. It was being mopped up by 9:30 p.m.
The storm cell didn't get here until 10:00 pm but there was still a lot of lightning with it. I sent a good portion of the night on fire patrol seeing if it started anything. There was a little moisture with it and I never did find any fire. I am worried about today though. When it warms up something could come to life. Damn lightning. Short couple hours of sleep. Hope nothing happens today.
We say, Oh, we're tired, can we do this anymore? We can't do this one more day. And then something happens and we laugh. And you can't get rid of us. Diane Sawyer
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Monday, August 7. 2006
Fire Patrol
I will be very glad when the fire season is over. I'm tired of the worrying. Last night I was in the shower when I heard some thunder rumbling. Damn!!! I jumped out of the shower, got dressed and ran outside. There was a heavy cloud off to the north east, where my land lays, and low and behold I see a couple of very light lightning strikes.
I jumped on the 4 wheeler, I've been told the hired man is sick but have no more information than that after his trip to the emergency room so a pickup is not necessary, to go check things out. Luckily it turned out there was a lot of rain in the cloud which was the source of the lightning. Over at the other place it was flat muddy it had poured so hard.
The moisture made me feel better since there would be little chance on an immediate fire start. There is no saying there might not be something smoldering that will take off today when it warms up to 100 degrees so I will have to keep a close "eye on the sky" to watch for smoke.
It's going to be a long couple of months before the fire season is "over." Lots of time to worry.
To understand is to perceive patterns. Isaiah Berlin
I jumped on the 4 wheeler, I've been told the hired man is sick but have no more information than that after his trip to the emergency room so a pickup is not necessary, to go check things out. Luckily it turned out there was a lot of rain in the cloud which was the source of the lightning. Over at the other place it was flat muddy it had poured so hard.
The moisture made me feel better since there would be little chance on an immediate fire start. There is no saying there might not be something smoldering that will take off today when it warms up to 100 degrees so I will have to keep a close "eye on the sky" to watch for smoke.
It's going to be a long couple of months before the fire season is "over." Lots of time to worry.
To understand is to perceive patterns. Isaiah Berlin
Wednesday, August 2. 2006
Burn
One of the crews vehicles that were in fighting the fire. The license plates indicate they are from the Bozeman area. They were unable to use these vehicles because part of the fire was in such rough country they were up doing hand work. Taken 8/1/2006.
One of the many slash piles burning late in the afternoon. Most of the smoke still visible was from these sources. They were letting them burn out. Taken 8/1/2006.
Thanks
I failed to mention it earlier. There was a large number of neighbors that responded to the fire yesterday and it is really appreciated. A community response to such things is important to the well being of all. I thanked everybody that was there and recognize and thank them here again.
When community flies out of the window it leaves a population of isolated individuals. Mary Douglas
When community flies out of the window it leaves a population of isolated individuals. Mary Douglas
Tuesday, August 1. 2006
Home
Well, I'm finally back home again. Talk about a rude awakening to get a phone call at 2:30 am saying there is a fire. I look out my window to the east and see an orange glow on the horizon that doesn't just say there is a fire over there, it says;
THERE IS A DAMN BIG FIRE OVER HERE AND IT IS REALLY BURNING!!!!!!
I was out of here as fast as possible to get to the fire and see what I could do. It was 75 degrees still and by the time we got to the fire there was a stiff east wind blowing it towards my place at a fast and furious rate. The flames were leaping in the grass up to 4 feet tall and with my shovel and Pulaski there wasn't much I could do. The fire was reported in Indian Coulee but it was actually in the very head of Sarpy Creek across the fence from my place.
The Northern Cheyenne fire teams started showing up at the same time I did and one of the bosses needed a local to show him around the fire in the dark so he could see how it was laid out and plan a way to attack it. Since I had no water I started running him around so we could get the crews fighting the fire. About the time we started finally getting the crews headed out to start fighting the fire the temperatures took a downwards turn and a little spit shower came up.
It was the most amazing thing I had ever seen. The fire was burning in grass and old timber burned a few years ago and the increase in humidity with the little spit shower caused the fire to go from flames licking up 4 feet high to completely out within 20 minutes. The fire boss I was with said, "This change in Humidity is going to make us look like genius firefighters." It really showed me what a little difference a change in the humidity could make.
It stayed fairly cool all day and the humidity has stayed up all day so they got all the way around the fire and got it out. We stayed there and made sure they didn't need anymore help and made sure they got it under control with enough crew for us to come home. When I left there was a fire crew from the Northern Cheyenne, a crew form Taos, New Mexico and a crew from the Bozeman area there. There was also 2 road graders and 3 crawlers there and a few other support pieces of equipment. I had guessed the fire size at 500 acres and finally heard when I left that they were calling it 350 acres. If that humidity wouldn't of changed we would have been in a hell of a pickle and been in real trouble but we were lucky. I guess I can't say I only have bad luck because this sure changed it.
One of the guys up at the fire mentioned something that they have a policy now this year that the fire has to be completely cool before they demobilize from it. I will keep going up and checking on it but will leave the mop-up work to the professionals. I won't be comfortable if I don;t keep an eye on it but with that policy I shouldn't have to sit on it. I'll let them do that.
One last thing. I am going to have to consider weaning my self from my caffeine addiction. Bolting out of bed and having to get going with out my dose of coffee in the morning lead me to such a sever headache that it wasn't even funny. It wasn't until I swallowed way more Excedrin Migraine (it has caffeine in it) than is recommended for one human being to take in a week that I finally got the headache under control. This can't be good for me. I'm not saying I am going to do it, but I need to think about it.
I have a few pictures I will try to get up. I was busy enough during the fire I didn't get any of the active burn but got some afterwords.
A chain is no stronger than its weakest link, and life is after all a chain. William James
P.S. I want to thank everybody for their kind wishes. They are appreciated.
THERE IS A DAMN BIG FIRE OVER HERE AND IT IS REALLY BURNING!!!!!!
I was out of here as fast as possible to get to the fire and see what I could do. It was 75 degrees still and by the time we got to the fire there was a stiff east wind blowing it towards my place at a fast and furious rate. The flames were leaping in the grass up to 4 feet tall and with my shovel and Pulaski there wasn't much I could do. The fire was reported in Indian Coulee but it was actually in the very head of Sarpy Creek across the fence from my place.
The Northern Cheyenne fire teams started showing up at the same time I did and one of the bosses needed a local to show him around the fire in the dark so he could see how it was laid out and plan a way to attack it. Since I had no water I started running him around so we could get the crews fighting the fire. About the time we started finally getting the crews headed out to start fighting the fire the temperatures took a downwards turn and a little spit shower came up.
It was the most amazing thing I had ever seen. The fire was burning in grass and old timber burned a few years ago and the increase in humidity with the little spit shower caused the fire to go from flames licking up 4 feet high to completely out within 20 minutes. The fire boss I was with said, "This change in Humidity is going to make us look like genius firefighters." It really showed me what a little difference a change in the humidity could make.
It stayed fairly cool all day and the humidity has stayed up all day so they got all the way around the fire and got it out. We stayed there and made sure they didn't need anymore help and made sure they got it under control with enough crew for us to come home. When I left there was a fire crew from the Northern Cheyenne, a crew form Taos, New Mexico and a crew from the Bozeman area there. There was also 2 road graders and 3 crawlers there and a few other support pieces of equipment. I had guessed the fire size at 500 acres and finally heard when I left that they were calling it 350 acres. If that humidity wouldn't of changed we would have been in a hell of a pickle and been in real trouble but we were lucky. I guess I can't say I only have bad luck because this sure changed it.
One of the guys up at the fire mentioned something that they have a policy now this year that the fire has to be completely cool before they demobilize from it. I will keep going up and checking on it but will leave the mop-up work to the professionals. I won't be comfortable if I don;t keep an eye on it but with that policy I shouldn't have to sit on it. I'll let them do that.
One last thing. I am going to have to consider weaning my self from my caffeine addiction. Bolting out of bed and having to get going with out my dose of coffee in the morning lead me to such a sever headache that it wasn't even funny. It wasn't until I swallowed way more Excedrin Migraine (it has caffeine in it) than is recommended for one human being to take in a week that I finally got the headache under control. This can't be good for me. I'm not saying I am going to do it, but I need to think about it.
I have a few pictures I will try to get up. I was busy enough during the fire I didn't get any of the active burn but got some afterwords.
A chain is no stronger than its weakest link, and life is after all a chain. William James
P.S. I want to thank everybody for their kind wishes. They are appreciated.
Fire
Hi, this is Sam's Daring Wife. Sam is out on his way to fight fire this morning. It is over at what they call Indian Coulee. It is a ways for the houses but closer to some of the cows. I don't get over that way too often So I can't tell you too much. If you would all think good thoughts for him and everyone else to stay safe I would appreciate it. Thanks I am sure Sam will tell you more about it when he gets home.
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